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Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:05:00 -
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Obmud wrote:Danalee wrote:I apologize, when coming down to your level I felt less secure and therefor reacted with childish remarks to your well thought out statements. D.  Apology accepted.
Methinks you missed the very apparent point in his original comment!
I also would like to ask the OP how much you have personally donated to the relief fund? |
Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:16:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Besides the fact that you're a coward posting with an npc alt...
...CCP said they're not happy with people doing this.
I can't put my finger on who said it... hm... It was mentioned in a couple of other threads on the topic but I forget by who. One of the pirates posting in support of PFG floated the idea of extorting donations as ransoms but then later posted to say that they had been told not to do this by CCP and to just take isk and donate it themselves. If memory serves another pirate then reported the same response in another of the threads.
You also have missed the point in that there is no extortion going on here only options in surrendering to a wardec as I read it.
Option 1, pay a surrender fee. which is part of the mechanic
Option 2, pay a plex which will be donated to the relief fund. Which is a way of helping people caught up in a very bad disater.
If people feel that it is extortion then make a personal donation outside the options given even if you are wardecced or not.
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Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:20:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:You know what?
I didn't donate a thing.
I won't donate a single ISK.
The amount of bull regarding this is ridiculous!
I bet most people don't actually donate a single cent of their own money,
while at the same time keep telling themselves what kind of good people they are!
I hope CCP can reduce their taxes with this,
because all you who don't pay a single cent of real money,
are donating somebody elses money!
And you feel good about it too!
WOAH you are such good people!
Really! OMG I BOW BEFORE YOU!
*********** !
Now that is the way it really is and +1 for saying it.
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Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
59
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:24:00 -
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Obmud wrote:Miko Jin wrote:Obmud wrote:Danalee wrote:I apologize, when coming down to your level I felt less secure and therefor reacted with childish remarks to your well thought out statements. D. Apology accepted. Methinks you missed the very apparent point in his original comment! I also would like to ask the OP how much you have personally donated to the relief fund? 1. It's none of your business, i stated already that i belief in not bloating about it wether you give something or not. it's everybody's personal business.
So what is your real purpose here as it certainly is not just about Marmites raising isk for a worthy relief fund, I believe you have alterior motives in bringing this. |
Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:26:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:Miko Jin wrote:RAW23 wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Besides the fact that you're a coward posting with an npc alt...
...CCP said they're not happy with people doing this.
I can't put my finger on who said it... hm... It was mentioned in a couple of other threads on the topic but I forget by who. One of the pirates posting in support of PFG floated the idea of extorting donations as ransoms but then later posted to say that they had been told not to do this by CCP and to just take isk and donate it themselves. If memory serves another pirate then reported the same response in another of the threads. You also have missed the point in that there is no extortion going on here only options in surrendering to a wardec as I read it. Option 1, pay a surrender fee. which is part of the mechanic Option 2, pay a plex which will be donated to the relief fund. Which is a way of helping people caught up in a very bad disater. If people feel that it is extortion then make a personal donation outside the options given even if you are wardecced or not. It's not that extortion in game is a bad thing (it's not) but both option 1 and 2 are clearly instances of extortion. You pay a fee to avoid the threat of force being used against you. That is just what extortion is.
Then petition CCP to remove the option in the surrender mechanic of paying a fee to surrender as it is they who introduced it.
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Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:34:00 -
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Obmud wrote:Miko Jin wrote:
You also have missed the point in that there is no extortion going on here only options in surrendering to a wardec as I read it.
Option 1, pay a surrender fee. which is part of the mechanic
Option 2, pay a plex which will be donated to the relief fund and is also only done because of the blackmailing. Which is a way of helping people caught up in a very bad disater.
FTFY "If people feel that it is extortion then make a personal donation outside the options given even if you are wardecced or not." That is exactly my point, thank you for underlining it again.
That is the way it has allways been but you needed to try and go on a moral crusade over something you are not even going to help with.
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Miko Jin
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2013.11.27 13:40:00 -
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Obmud wrote:Icarus Able wrote:Obmud wrote:Icarus Able wrote:Deal with it. Extortion is a valid game mechanic. Blackmailing people into doing stuff that they wouldn't do otherwise in the RL world is a criminal offence. It has nothing to do with a game mechanic, that is EXACTLY my point and it nowhere justifies everything you do just because ccp tolerates the double isk scammers in jita. I have problems understanding your logic to be honest. You can buy PLEX with in game currency....If someone chooses to do it with Real world money thats their choice. Therefore Valid game mechanic. What exactly did you miss when going from "it's their choice" to being forced into making the choice ?
I fail to see where you come into this being forced scenario!
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